Horses & Holy Moments

Two Kingdoms

Episode 30 – Two Kingdoms: Understanding the Realm of Light and Darkness
In this sobering and clarifying episode of Horses and Holy Moments, Ingela Larsson Smith and Corrie Sepcich unpack a topic that many Western Christians rarely discuss openly: the reality of two spiritual kingdoms—the Kingdom of Light and the kingdom of darkness.
Drawing from Scripture and personal experience, Ingela explains demonic influence, spiritual authority, healing of the heart, and how lies gain access through wounds. She carefully distinguishes between possession and influence, emphasizing the believer’s authority through the blood and name of Jesus.
Rather than stirring fear, this episode equips listeners with truth, grounding everything in the finished work of Christ. It is a bold but hope-filled reminder that Jesus has already won—and that believers are called to walk in freedom, discernment, and spiritual maturity.

Spirit, Soul & Body

Spirit, Soul, and Body: Why You Can Be Perfect and Still Feel Messy
In this theologically rich and down-to-earth episode, hosts Ingela Larsson Smith and Corrie Sepcich unpack one of the most misunderstood truths of the Christian life: that every believer is made up of three parts—spirit, soul, and body—and only one of them is instantly transformed at salvation.
Ingela explains how your spirit is made perfect, holy, and one with God the moment you are born again—but your soul (mind, will, emotions) is still in a lifelong process of sanctification. Using powerful metaphors like the “goldfish vs. piranha nature,” she brings clarity to why Christians still struggle with sin, and how understanding the difference between spirit and soul sets us free from shame, fear, and striving.
This episode is packed with Scripture, practical wisdom, and encouragement for anyone wrestling with their behavior or inner battles—and wondering, “If I’m a new creation, why don’t I feel like one?”

A Stressed-Out Horse

Episode 28 – A Stressed-Out Horse: How to Help When Trauma Takes Over 
In this powerful and emotional episode, Ingela Larsson Smith and Corrie Sepcich share the story of a traumatized warmblood mare who had become dangerously stressed after a series of intense and inappropriate training methods. Through detailed observation and compassionate leadership, Ingela shows how a few quiet minutes of clarity, presence, and protection can begin to transform even the most overwhelmed horse.
Listeners will learn how unresolved stress builds up in a horse’s nervous system and why forcing a horse to accept pressure can lead to collapse or shut-down. Ingela explains her approach to regulating the nervous system first, rather than training behavior—and how this mirrors the way God leads us gently toward rest, not control.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone facing fear, trauma, or stress—in a horse or in their own heart.
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Space Awareness

Episode 27 – Space Awareness: Understanding How Horses and Humans Share and Claim Space
In this insightful episode, hosts Ingela Larsson Smith and Corrie Sepcich explore how horses experience and communicate through space—and why understanding this is essential for true connection. From personal space bubbles to herd dynamics, they break down how dominant, passive, and lead horses interact through the claiming, giving, or sharing of space.
Ingela also explains how space isn’t just physical—it includes mental, emotional, and spiritual headspace, and how both horses and humans need it to process, rest, and stay regulated.
Packed with relatable stories, spiritual parallels, and practical liberty work insights, this episode invites listeners to grow in self-awareness and learn how to offer their horse a safe, shared space where trust can grow.

Warrior

Episode 26 – Warrior: A Holy Moment in the Round Pen
In this unforgettable episode, Ingela Larsson Smith shares a powerful true story from the Canadian wilderness that captures the essence of both horsemanship and faith.
While training wild horses for hunters in northern British Columbia, Ingela is unexpectedly asked to help with a dangerous and aggressive horse named Nuisance—a horse labeled unrideable and feared by wranglers. But what unfolds in the round pen becomes a holy moment of transformation, as Ingela chooses not to block the horse’s charge but to stand still—and witnesses an instant, supernatural shift in his heart.
Through this gripping encounter, Ingela reflects on the power of presence, obedience to the Holy Spirit, and the significance of renaming the horse Warrior—a symbol of how words and identity shape reality. The story is not just about a horse; it’s a profound lesson on how God sees us beyond our labels and invites us into healing and purpose.

Connecting with God

Connecting with God: The “To Me” Position and the Secret Place
In this deeply personal and powerful episode, Ingela Larsson Smith unpacks the beautiful parallel between the “To Me” position in horsemanship—where a horse comes face-to-face with you in stillness—and the way we come into intimate connection with God in the secret place.
Through rich metaphor and honest reflection, Ingela explores how we (and our horses) can be externally close but internally far, and why true transformation only happens in love-fueled presence—not through effort, performance, or religious activity. She invites us to move beyond doing things for God and return to simply being with Him, face-to-face.
This episode is a heartfelt invitation to fall in love with Jesus all over again—and to let Him become not just our Savior, but our daily delight.

Training vs Building Relationship (Part 4)

Episode 24 – Training vs. Building Relationship – Part 4: Shaping Space through Freedom and Feel
In this final part of the series, hosts Ingela Larsson Smith and Corrie Sepcich explore the beauty and depth of working with a horse at liberty—from behind—in a way that prioritizes freedom over micromanagement. Ingela explains her unique method of “shaping space,” where subtle shifts in presence, intention, and body awareness invite the horse to respond without force.
Listeners will discover how leadership from Zone 5 (behind the horse) mirrors the natural dynamics of a herd and opens the door to powerful, willing movement—circles, transitions, and changes of direction—all rooted in trust. The conversation also explores how invisible communication is not only real, but essential to deep partnership, with spiritual parallels to how God invites rather than demands.
This episode is a practical and inspiring masterclass in liberty work, energy awareness, and letting go of control to cultivate true connection.

Training vs Building Relationship (Part 3)

Training vs. Building Relationship – Part 3: Being Chosen, Not Chasing Control
In this powerful third installment on building relationship over training, hosts Ingela Larsson Smith and Corrie Sepcich dive deeper into what it means to be truly invited into a horse’s herd—not through dominance or obedience, but through patient pursuit and earned trust.
Ingela shares how horses mirror our spiritual life: just as a horse may let us near without truly inviting us into movement and freedom, we can live near God while still holding back. From liberty exercises to herd dynamics, the conversation reveals how freedom and relationship go hand in hand.
You’ll hear practical stories of when a horse says “no,” and how asking again—gently and without pressure—leads to transformation. The episode also weaves in beautiful spiritual truths about how God never forces us, but invites us into joyful partnership, step for step.
If you long to feel truly seen by your horse—or by God—this episode will speak deeply to both your horsemanship and your heart.

Training vs Building Relationship (Part 2)

 
Training vs. Building Relationship – Part 2: Creating True Choice and Trust
In this deep and beautiful continuation of Training vs. Building Relationship, hosts Ingela Larsson Smith and Corrie Sepcich explore what it really means to give a horse the freedom to choose relationship without pressure. Ingela shares how many common training techniques—even when called “natural”—often override a horse’s true choice, and why real trust is built in stillness, not force.
With powerful metaphors, Ingela paints the picture of becoming the kind of leader a horse wants to follow: calm, grounded, consistent, and trustworthy. She also draws rich spiritual parallels to how God invites us—not by control, but by love—to run to Him in full freedom.
If you’ve ever wanted a horse to truly connect with you—or longed for a deeper, freer relationship with God—this episode is full of clarity, challenge, and grace.
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Training vs Building Relationship (Part 1)

Training vs. Building Relationship – Part 1: Heart Connection with Horses and God
In this insightful episode of Horses and Holy Moments, hosts Ingela Larsson Smith and Corrie Sepcich explore the profound difference between simply training a horse and truly building a relationship. Ingela explains how horses read our hearts, sense our nervous system, and respond to the presence and peace we carry.
Through practical examples and spiritual parallels, they discuss why genuine connection requires choice, mutual trust, and a “we” mindset—moving together as one, rather than controlling behavior.
This episode also draws a beautiful comparison to our walk with Jesus, who leads us with gentleness and invites us into relationship, not rigid rules.
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